Like father like son, Roys bond over fighting

By Joe O'Connell

Published: Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Updated: Sunday, September 6, 2009

There is no stronger relationship than a bond between a father and son. It is one that can stand the tests of time, having a profound influence on what kind of man the son will grow up to be.

We all have those favorite moments we spend with our dad. Some of us play catch, others go to the ball field and watch a favorite baseball team, while others would be content wasting a day just sitting on the shore with a fishing pole in hand.

Patrick Roy and his son, Jonathan, beat up teenagers. O.K., maybe it is just Jonathan who is doing the actual fighting, but daddy Patrick is right there encouraging him.

The incident I am referring to occurred last Saturday in Quebec, Canada. During a Quebec major junior playoff hockey game between the Quebec Remparts and the Chicoutimi Sagueneens, a nasty brawl broke out between all 10 skaters.

Jonathan, the Remparts back up goalie, not even the first string, was trying to engage opposing goalie Bobby Nadeau, but the young Roy was being held back by one of the officials at center ice and Nadeau would not engage him.

After it appeared Jonathan had been subdued, he took off down the ice, removed his helmet, jumped on Nadeau, and proceeded to pummel the 19 year old, even after he had fallen to the ice and would not fight back. Roy then gave the fans the one-fingered salute before taking on another Sagueneen player.

For his actions, Jonathan Roy was given a seven game suspension, effective immediately, and depending on how the Remparts perform in the playoffs, it could go into next season.

As facts and video began to surface about the incident, it became apparent that Remparts coach, manager, co-owner, and NHL Hall of Famer Patrick Roy may have had more of a hand in his offspring's fight. Video now shows that after Jonathan stopped yelling at Nadeau, his papa, a former Colorado Avalanche goalie, yelled and whistled at Jonathan before indicating to him to go in the direction of Nadeau. The video also shows Jonathan look back at the bench before going all Floyd Mayweather.

For all that, Patrick received his own suspension of five games, also effective immediately. Patrick has since apologized for the incident, saying that he definitely could have handled the situation differently.

Now it has been reported that Quebec law enforcement officials will be launching a criminal investigation in the fight to see if any of the individuals involved may have broken a law or two.

Normally, a father does not encourage his son to throw down in fisticuffs. When you are a child, your old man tells you to use your words, avoid violence.

Unless of course there is a bully who just continues to berate you. Then your dad will take you into the garage and teach you how to throw an effective right hook.

But there is no excuse for what either Roy did. It was obvious to anyone and everyone that Nadeau wanted nothing to do with Roy. He wasn't going to bite, no matter how long Roy persisted. If Roy wanted to unleash some anger, he could have just jumped into any of the other three or four fights going on in the ice.

The two most-talked about subjects coming out of this are the older Roy's actions and the fact that incidents such as these are the only ways hockey can make front-page news or be the leading story on Sports Center.

Obviously Roy, who is the NHL career leader in victories, dropped the ball in the situation and it is apparent that even though he has been out of the league for five years, he has not tamed his own anger issues. Just go on YouTube and search "Patrick Roy-Chris Osgood fight" and you will see what I am talking about.

Plus, hockey aficionados should be thankful for this. It may not be the airtime they want, but at least their god Barry Melrose and his sweet hair get to be on television for an extra two minutes.

However, very few people are focusing on the fact that young Jonathan has not only embarrassed his family and team, but has also come close to ruining his life. Clearly he did not have a future in hockey as his 2007-2008 season line reads 3-10 in 22 games with a 3.96 goals against average. But now he will always be known as "that goalie," who beat up a goalie that didn't fight back. And there is the possibility that he could be criminally charged.

Looks like the Roy's are going to have time to go on that father-son fishing trip after all. The bass should be careful though; they could be in for a beating.

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